the congressional budget office has said if you look at next year's deficit, 3/4 of next year's deficit is the result of high and employment. the economy is not a potential. lots of slack in the economy. so we need to do things to help the economy going. certainly do no harm, sore place the sequester, what should we act now to reduce the long-term deficit? yes. if you look at out years, especially because the demographic shifts, it will become unsustainable if we do not take action. but the president's budget gets the deficit down and to 1.7% of gdp 10 years from now, stabilize the debt, and can we do better? yes. but let me say this in closing. because of artificial budget rules we focus on 10 years. there is no magic in 10 years. somebody could have picked five years, 15 years. the real issue is to take actions now that phase in over a period of time in a steady, credible way. that would help us focus on the real issues. >> we do a budget every year. should it be every two years? >> first of all, we have not gotten a budget. >> we keep going. >> so in that sense -- i could support som